登月不能质疑？(转载)
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at 2017-05-17 • 0人收藏 • 529人看过
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美国官方、NASA以及其遍布世界的谍工忽攸的方式：
1、重复播放当年“登月”纪录片和图片，提供土5火箭、登月舱、登月指令舱的数据，技术参数的资料，隔段时间送上些声称是修复过的PS“登月”照片。再利用Discovery探索频道 如《流言终结者》登月节目的“技术手段”，不断播出当年参与阿波罗计划人员的访谈录……好加固大众认可“登月是百分之百的事实”倾向。对于自我感觉良好的普通人和非理性思考的人，这其实比TG的洗脑宣传更具有杀伤性。
2、派出谍工到各媒体网站进行信息交叉污染的攻势，如一直重复解释“星星、国旗……”之类毫无意义的问题，把大众引入逻辑的误区，好回避掉关键问题；甚至采用钩鱼战术，故意漏出登月‘马脚’，将大众导入错误的判断方向，陷入思维死角，然后换马甲进行“科学家解释”，顺利‘解决问题’，制造什么‘有关登月的谣言不攻自破’的假象；（可参考“5毛的机密”）
他们对关键问题，如在没有大气的月球上软着陆、直播、返回、燃料等核心问题，进行似是而非的‘解释’，要么说些顾左右而言其他的屁话敷衍了事、要么糊涂解释，瞎编所谓‘科学公式’来蒙混过关。假的东西有时看上去，往往比真得还要真……
3、使阴招，对敢于质疑登月的、阴谋论者采用攻击、嘲讽、厌烦的方式，这是针对大众的“心理战”。一方面可以欲盖弥彰，搞得好像质疑派很无知似的，所以被众人狂批。另一方面，又能让许多心存疑问的人留下心理阴影，让他们主动回避现实，重新接受主流、权威和教条。还可以让普通大众‘本能’地产生对阴谋论的抵触情绪。
其实无论是美国谍工还是美分，他们都很容易到官方网站找到一大堆所谓的“证据”，再进行不厌其烦地转发，并且能炉火纯青地运用相关攻略，事半功倍地‘解决掉’不断的质疑。精英和野心家、政客很清楚，这世界上拥有健全思维逻辑、知识全面、能正确处理复杂信息的人本来就少，明白真理的人很难说服迷茫的大众。他们深深地明白：真理是苍白的，谎言才具有地震般的‘说服力’。
美国官方、NASA以及其遍布世界的谍工忽攸的方式：
1、重复播放当年“登月”纪录片和图片，提供土5火箭、登月舱、登月指令舱的数据，技术参数的资料，隔段时间送上些声称是修复过的PS“登月”照片。再利用Discovery探索频道 如《流言终结者》登月节目的“技术手段”，不断播出当年参与阿波罗计划人员的访谈录……好加固大众认可“登月是百分之百的事实”倾向。对于自我感觉良好的普通人和非理性思考的人，这其实比TG的洗脑宣传更具有杀伤性。
2、派出谍工到各媒体网站进行信息交叉污染的攻势，如一直重复解释“星星、国旗……”之类毫无意义的问题，把大众引入逻辑的误区，好回避掉关键问题；甚至采用钩鱼战术，故意漏出登月‘马脚’，将大众导入错误的判断方向，陷入思维死角，然后换马甲进行“科学家解释”，顺利‘解决问题’，制造什么‘有关登月的谣言不攻自破’的假象；（可参考“5毛的机密”）
他们对关键问题，如在没有大气的月球上软着陆、直播、返回、燃料等核心问题，进行似是而非的‘解释’，要么说些顾左右而言其他的屁话敷衍了事、要么糊涂解释，瞎编所谓‘科学公式’来蒙混过关。假的东西有时看上去，往往比真得还要真……
3、使阴招，对敢于质疑登月的、阴谋论者采用攻击、嘲讽、厌烦的方式，这是针对大众的“心理战”。一方面可以欲盖弥彰，搞得好像质疑派很无知似的，所以被众人狂批。另一方面，又能让许多心存疑问的人留下心理阴影，让他们主动回避现实，重新接受主流、权威和教条。还可以让普通大众‘本能’地产生对阴谋论的抵触情绪。
其实无论是美国谍工还是美分，他们都很容易到官方网站找到一大堆所谓的“证据”，再进行不厌其烦地转发，并且能炉火纯青地运用相关攻略，事半功倍地‘解决掉’不断的质疑。精英和野心家、政客很清楚，这世界上拥有健全思维逻辑、知识全面、能正确处理复杂信息的人本来就少，明白真理的人很难说服迷茫的大众。他们深深地明白：真理是苍白的，谎言才具有地震般的‘说服力’。
53 个回复 | 最后更新于 2017-07-29
加国飞猪
2017-05-20
#1
你咋不质疑太阳从东方升起。脑残啊。登月一共6次，历时十年，参与的人员几十万，全世界都盯着你，你造假看看。
2017-05-23
#4
@北京_三牛a
楼猪真正傻冒。
美国登月后在月球表面留下不少遗留物，美国航天局告知了明确的地点，现在依然在那里。
想质疑，到那个地点看一看，如果没有才能证明登月是假的。
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阿波罗登月，登月地点的历史遗留物品就是美国载人登月的铁证！
不过到目前为止还没有清晰的美国登月遗留痕迹的证据。
我个人是怀疑阿波罗登月的，月球上到底有没有当年美国登月遗留下来的东西，这个事情早晚会有水落石出的一天，嫦娥已经落月，相信有生之年应该能够等到美国登月真相的消息。
楼猪真正傻冒。
美国登月后在月球表面留下不少遗留物，美国航天局告知了明确的地点，现在依然在那里。
想质疑，到那个地点看一看，如果没有才能证明登月是假的。
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阿波罗登月，登月地点的历史遗留物品就是美国载人登月的铁证！
不过到目前为止还没有清晰的美国登月遗留痕迹的证据。
我个人是怀疑阿波罗登月的，月球上到底有没有当年美国登月遗留下来的东西，这个事情早晚会有水落石出的一天，嫦娥已经落月，相信有生之年应该能够等到美国登月真相的消息。
看看宇宙飞船如何在太空对接：
交会对接过程分4个阶段：地面导引，自动寻的，最后接近和停靠，对接合拢。在导引阶段，追踪航天器在地面控制中心的操纵下，经过若干次变轨机动，进入到追踪航天器上的敏感器能捕获目标航天器的范围(一般为15～100公里)。在自动寻的阶段，追踪航天器根据自身的微波和激光敏感器测得的与目标航天器的相对运动参数，自动引导到目标航天器附近的初始瞄准点(距目标航天器0.5～1公里)，由此开始最后接近和停靠。追踪航天器首先要捕获目标的对接轴，当对接轴线不沿轨道飞行方向时，要求追踪航天器在轨道平面外进行绕飞机动，以进入对接走廊，此时两个航天器之间的距离约100米，相对速度约3～1米/秒。追踪航天器利用由摄像敏感器和接近敏感器组成的测量系统精确测量两个航天器的距离、相对速度和姿态，同时启动小发动机进行机动，使之沿对接走廊向目标最后逼近。在对接合拢前关闭发动机，以0.15～0.18米/秒的停靠速度与目标相撞，最后利用栓一锥或异体同构周边对接装置的抓手、缓冲器、传力机构和锁紧机构使两个航天器在结构上实现硬连接，完成信息传输总线、电源线和流体管线的连接。
那么，在月球上如何保障两艘飞船实现对接呢？当年阿波罗登月，在飞船再次从月球发射升空后，美国休斯敦航天中心如何用无线电遥控技术确定两艘飞船在绕月轨道上的位置呢？注意：在第一个阶段，美国休斯敦航天中心必须在地球上对两艘飞船进行引导，要进行多次变轨，而不是靠阿姆斯特朗用眼珠子寻找，用手动寻找目标，在第一阶段，两艘飞船的宇航员是什么都不能干的，只能听天由命的，完全依靠休斯敦中心的控制。而当年的遥控技术根本不能对30万公里之外的两艘飞船进行测距，做不到的。有些美粉会拿深空雷达说事，呵呵，深空雷达怎么能做到精确测距，实时跟踪，根本不可能的。
因此，阿波罗登月就是扯鸡巴蛋！
交会对接过程分4个阶段：地面导引，自动寻的，最后接近和停靠，对接合拢。在导引阶段，追踪航天器在地面控制中心的操纵下，经过若干次变轨机动，进入到追踪航天器上的敏感器能捕获目标航天器的范围(一般为15～100公里)。在自动寻的阶段，追踪航天器根据自身的微波和激光敏感器测得的与目标航天器的相对运动参数，自动引导到目标航天器附近的初始瞄准点(距目标航天器0.5～1公里)，由此开始最后接近和停靠。追踪航天器首先要捕获目标的对接轴，当对接轴线不沿轨道飞行方向时，要求追踪航天器在轨道平面外进行绕飞机动，以进入对接走廊，此时两个航天器之间的距离约100米，相对速度约3～1米/秒。追踪航天器利用由摄像敏感器和接近敏感器组成的测量系统精确测量两个航天器的距离、相对速度和姿态，同时启动小发动机进行机动，使之沿对接走廊向目标最后逼近。在对接合拢前关闭发动机，以0.15～0.18米/秒的停靠速度与目标相撞，最后利用栓一锥或异体同构周边对接装置的抓手、缓冲器、传力机构和锁紧机构使两个航天器在结构上实现硬连接，完成信息传输总线、电源线和流体管线的连接。
那么，在月球上如何保障两艘飞船实现对接呢？当年阿波罗登月，在飞船再次从月球发射升空后，美国休斯敦航天中心如何用无线电遥控技术确定两艘飞船在绕月轨道上的位置呢？注意：在第一个阶段，美国休斯敦航天中心必须在地球上对两艘飞船进行引导，要进行多次变轨，而不是靠阿姆斯特朗用眼珠子寻找，用手动寻找目标，在第一阶段，两艘飞船的宇航员是什么都不能干的，只能听天由命的，完全依靠休斯敦中心的控制。而当年的遥控技术根本不能对30万公里之外的两艘飞船进行测距，做不到的。有些美粉会拿深空雷达说事，呵呵，深空雷达怎么能做到精确测距，实时跟踪，根本不可能的。
因此，阿波罗登月就是扯鸡巴蛋！
@科学僧
看看宇宙飞船如何在太空对接：
交会对接过程分4个阶段：地面导引，自动寻的，最后接近和停靠，对接合拢。在导引阶段，追踪航天器在地面控制中心的操纵下，经过若干次变轨机动，进入到追踪航天器上的敏感器能捕获目标航天器的范围(一般为15～100公里)。在自动寻的阶段，追踪航天器根据自身的微波和激光敏感器测得的与目标航天器的相对运动参数，自动引导到目标航天器附近的初始瞄准点(距目标航天器0.5～1公里)，由此开始......
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@zoro0997
还有月球对地，实时直播，简直不能再扯了
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怀疑的都是不懂技术的人,你以为不能直播就是真的了么?
如果你普通人的以为都是真的,那些科学家经过计算不就知道肯定不行了?
肯定不行了还没人说?全世界的无线电科学家和爱好者都没你聪明系列!
当时的就技术叫慢电视扫描技术,类似后来电脑的realplayer,用拨号上网看球赛直播
看看宇宙飞船如何在太空对接：
交会对接过程分4个阶段：地面导引，自动寻的，最后接近和停靠，对接合拢。在导引阶段，追踪航天器在地面控制中心的操纵下，经过若干次变轨机动，进入到追踪航天器上的敏感器能捕获目标航天器的范围(一般为15～100公里)。在自动寻的阶段，追踪航天器根据自身的微波和激光敏感器测得的与目标航天器的相对运动参数，自动引导到目标航天器附近的初始瞄准点(距目标航天器0.5～1公里)，由此开始......
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@zoro0997
还有月球对地，实时直播，简直不能再扯了
-----------------------------
怀疑的都是不懂技术的人,你以为不能直播就是真的了么?
如果你普通人的以为都是真的,那些科学家经过计算不就知道肯定不行了?
肯定不行了还没人说?全世界的无线电科学家和爱好者都没你聪明系列!
当时的就技术叫慢电视扫描技术,类似后来电脑的realplayer,用拨号上网看球赛直播
Saturn 5 Blueprints Safely in Storage
A NASA official has denied a claim made by a book author that blueprints for the mighty Saturn 5 rocket used to push Apollo astronauts to the moon were lost.
The denial came in response to a recent story in SPACE.com that reported on a claim John Lewis made in his 1996 book, Mining the Sky, that he went looking for the Saturn 5 blueprints a few years ago and concluded, incredibly, they had been "lost."
Paul Shawcross, from NASA's Office of Inspector General, came to the agency's defense in comments published on CCNet -- a scholarly electronic newsletter covering the threat of asteroids and comets. Shawcross said the Saturn 5 blueprints are held at the Marshall Space Flight Center on microfilm.
"There is no point in even contemplating trying to rebuild the Saturn 5 ... The real problem is the hundreds of thousands of parts that are simply not manufactured any more."
"The Federal Archives in East Point, Georgia, also has 2,900 cubic feet of Saturn documents," he said. "Rocketdyne has in its archives dozens of volumes from its Knowledge Retention Program. This effort was initiated in the late '60s to document every facet of F 1 and J 2 engine production to assist in any future restart."
Shawcross cautioned that rebuilding a Saturn 5 would require more than good blueprints.
"The problem in recreating the Saturn 5 is not finding the drawings, it is finding vendors who can supply mid-1960's vintage hardware," he wrote, "and the fact that the launch pads and vehicle assembly buildings have been converted to space shuttle use, so you have no place to launch from.
"By the time you redesign to accommodate available hardware and re-modify the launch pads, you may as well have started from scratch with a clean sheet design," he wrote.
In years past, rumors have abounded that in the 1970s the White House or Congress had the Saturn 5 plans destroyed "to prevent the technology from falling into the wrong hands".
That seems doubtful -- it would be a formidable terrorist group that decided to build a Saturn 5 to wreak havoc on the world, or build a lunar base. Also, by the1970s, the Soviets apparently had given up on the race to the moon.
Geoffrey Hughes from the Rotary Rocket Company supported Shawcross's view.
"There is no point in even contemplating trying to rebuild the Saturn 5," he said. "Having a complete set of Saturn 5 blueprints would do us no good whatsoever. True, we would still be able to bend the big pieces of metal fairly easily. But they are not the problem.
"The real problem is the hundreds of thousands of other parts, some as apparently insignificant as a bolt or a washer, that are simply not manufactured any more. Everything would have to be redone. So a simple rebuild would be impossible. The only real answer would be to start from scratch and build anew using modern parts and processes. Yet another immense challenge!"
It turns out that NASA is taking on that challenge, but not necessarily to chase asteroids.
Engineers at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center are working on designs for a new giant launch vehicle called Magnum. It would use a curious mix of Russian rocket engines -- derived from the abandoned Soviet Energia rocket program -- and newly developed strap-on, liquid-fueled boosters that would first be tested out on space shuttles.
The Magnum would use the space shuttle launch facilities at Cape Canaveral and could launch 80 tons (81,280 kilograms) of payload into low Earth orbit (LEO). This compares with around 20 tons (20,320 kilograms) for the piloted space shuttle, and for un-piloted vehicles like the U.S.' Titan 4-B and the European Space Agency's Ariane 5. Its lift capacity, however, would be less than the 100 tons (101,600 kilograms) that the Saturn 5 and Energia could manage.
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NASA官方斥责了关于土星5号图纸丢失的谣言，并且表示，它们安全地保存在航天中心的文件室里
这个谣言的来源来自于约翰.李维斯96年的《探索天空》的书籍，作者表示，他花数年时间都没找到土星5号的图纸，所以就认定它们已经丢失了
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这个揣测也太威武了，这个作者算什么东西,人家图纸为什么要给你看？我下次也写本关于神舟的书，然后里面写道我花了很久都找不到神舟飞船的图纸，所以肯定图纸丢失了。
A NASA official has denied a claim made by a book author that blueprints for the mighty Saturn 5 rocket used to push Apollo astronauts to the moon were lost.
The denial came in response to a recent story in SPACE.com that reported on a claim John Lewis made in his 1996 book, Mining the Sky, that he went looking for the Saturn 5 blueprints a few years ago and concluded, incredibly, they had been "lost."
Paul Shawcross, from NASA's Office of Inspector General, came to the agency's defense in comments published on CCNet -- a scholarly electronic newsletter covering the threat of asteroids and comets. Shawcross said the Saturn 5 blueprints are held at the Marshall Space Flight Center on microfilm.
"There is no point in even contemplating trying to rebuild the Saturn 5 ... The real problem is the hundreds of thousands of parts that are simply not manufactured any more."
"The Federal Archives in East Point, Georgia, also has 2,900 cubic feet of Saturn documents," he said. "Rocketdyne has in its archives dozens of volumes from its Knowledge Retention Program. This effort was initiated in the late '60s to document every facet of F 1 and J 2 engine production to assist in any future restart."
Shawcross cautioned that rebuilding a Saturn 5 would require more than good blueprints.
"The problem in recreating the Saturn 5 is not finding the drawings, it is finding vendors who can supply mid-1960's vintage hardware," he wrote, "and the fact that the launch pads and vehicle assembly buildings have been converted to space shuttle use, so you have no place to launch from.
"By the time you redesign to accommodate available hardware and re-modify the launch pads, you may as well have started from scratch with a clean sheet design," he wrote.
In years past, rumors have abounded that in the 1970s the White House or Congress had the Saturn 5 plans destroyed "to prevent the technology from falling into the wrong hands".
That seems doubtful -- it would be a formidable terrorist group that decided to build a Saturn 5 to wreak havoc on the world, or build a lunar base. Also, by the1970s, the Soviets apparently had given up on the race to the moon.
Geoffrey Hughes from the Rotary Rocket Company supported Shawcross's view.
"There is no point in even contemplating trying to rebuild the Saturn 5," he said. "Having a complete set of Saturn 5 blueprints would do us no good whatsoever. True, we would still be able to bend the big pieces of metal fairly easily. But they are not the problem.
"The real problem is the hundreds of thousands of other parts, some as apparently insignificant as a bolt or a washer, that are simply not manufactured any more. Everything would have to be redone. So a simple rebuild would be impossible. The only real answer would be to start from scratch and build anew using modern parts and processes. Yet another immense challenge!"
It turns out that NASA is taking on that challenge, but not necessarily to chase asteroids.
Engineers at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center are working on designs for a new giant launch vehicle called Magnum. It would use a curious mix of Russian rocket engines -- derived from the abandoned Soviet Energia rocket program -- and newly developed strap-on, liquid-fueled boosters that would first be tested out on space shuttles.
The Magnum would use the space shuttle launch facilities at Cape Canaveral and could launch 80 tons (81,280 kilograms) of payload into low Earth orbit (LEO). This compares with around 20 tons (20,320 kilograms) for the piloted space shuttle, and for un-piloted vehicles like the U.S.' Titan 4-B and the European Space Agency's Ariane 5. Its lift capacity, however, would be less than the 100 tons (101,600 kilograms) that the Saturn 5 and Energia could manage.
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NASA官方斥责了关于土星5号图纸丢失的谣言，并且表示，它们安全地保存在航天中心的文件室里
这个谣言的来源来自于约翰.李维斯96年的《探索天空》的书籍，作者表示，他花数年时间都没找到土星5号的图纸，所以就认定它们已经丢失了
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这个揣测也太威武了，这个作者算什么东西,人家图纸为什么要给你看？我下次也写本关于神舟的书，然后里面写道我花了很久都找不到神舟飞船的图纸，所以肯定图纸丢失了。
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